User talk:Nsayers

Amsterdam or Utrecht in 2009

I saw that you changed Utrecht to "assumed to repeat" in 2009. Why? And why did you do so without contacting the Dutch organiser of 2008 (me)?

Shortly after the 2008 ride in Utrecht I already changed Amsterdam to "assumed to ride" with the new date, 6 june 2009. Originally we had planned the 2008 WNBR in Amsterdam and I had already made some preparations (route etc.) and some publicity, but because of the main manifestation of the action for a good climate-protection law at the same day in Utrecht, we moved to Utrecht. I think there will be no serious dispute that the Dutch WNBR 2009 will be in Amsterdam -if so, things may change and that is the reason that I did not put "committed to ride" at that place- and while in Utrecht only a small group (between 25 and 30 paricipaters) turned up from all over the Netherlands, there is no use in organizing 2 WNBR's in the Netherlands, especially not in two locations so near to each other. – Ernic 19:27, 7 August 2008

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the full history of the rides in Amsterdam and Utrecht, and thanks for putting it right again. I was confused because the Utrecht ride seemed to have been a success so I presumed it would happen again there in 2009. I take your point about not consulting you about this, but I haven't got the time to consult other users over every change I make. The majority of users are inactive or don't respond on their Talk pages, and I don't have other organisers' email addresses. – Nsayers 02:24, 8 August 2008 (PDT)

There is only one Newcastle in the WNBR

Please desist from making uninvited changes to the Wiki Newcastle page. Marte 17:54, 7 Jul 2006

It's a wiki. People make changes, uninvited. That's how it works. I added a disambiguation page to save future confusion between the two large cities on Earth that are called Newcastle. --Nsayers 11:04, 7 Jul 2006 (PDT)

Thanks for contributing

Nsayers,

Thank you for your contributions to WNBR Wiki. Your work has been invaluable to the success of this ride internationally. Have a good day. D 11:06, 15 Mar 2006 (PST)

Use of your planning notes

Nsayers, can we use your planning notes as a template for other cities to use as well? They are very well written. Thank you for your consideration. D 13:29, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)

No worries. Go for it! It's a wiki, after all. ;-) Nsayers 13:44, 20 Mar 2006 (PST)

Pretoria

Hi Nick, Pretoria was not a WNBR event, it was not on public lands. I had a discussion about this with the ride organizors, but there don't want to adhere to WNBR policy. I'm removing the link from the list of rides. Cheers, D 10:50, 27 Mar 2006 (PST)

Request for involvement in Wikipedia naming convention dispute

Hi, I'd like to invite you to get involved in establishing consensus in discussions concerning naming conventions for social nudity topics.

Please join in this community discussion regarding the name of Wikipedia:Portal:Clothes free.

Participate here: Wikipedia:Portal_talk:Clothes_free#Votes

Please also join in the discussion about what to name an article dealing with Wikipedia:social nudity. I believe the the latter term is a better term to use than naturism or nudism as it is more Wikipedia:WP:NPOV and is in use currently. Formerly the article was titled Wikipedia:Clothes free movement.

Participate here: Wikipedia:Talk:Naturism#Move_to_Social_nudity

Cheers,

D 13:27, 15 Apr 2006 (PDT)

Wow! Amazing Work!

Thank you so much for all your thousands of edits on WNBR Wiki. You are totally amazing. D 19:18, 25 Apr 2006 (PDT)

Thanks again!

Thanks again for all of your recent work on this wiki. Its hard to even keep track of it all. Your work is invaluable. Cheers, D 11:41, 8 Jul 2006 (PDT)

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Thank-you not

Please do not edit my comments left on a discussion page. It is disrespectful to place words into someone's quote. I realize you only wished to make the links work in the single-minded way you desired. I will not get into a editing war with you. You deleted a page I took time to build, and you replaced all the links to it. In doing so, you made the Saint Louis entry something many people can no longer view from their work place (NSFW). Of course, to you, your way is best, and I see no point in changing it back just to have you change it again. Thank for for doing this without a single discussion about why someone might have wanted to do what they did. It is better to just change and quote the almighty wiki adage of not submitting things you do not want edited mercilessly. Respect is something that sane people never seek to find. I doubt I will add more photos with this as the status quo. --Photo212grapher 15:42, 3 August 2008 (PDT)

Sorry to have caused offence, and thanks for adding your photos to the wiki in an attractive and well-categorised manner. I was just house cleaning and amalgamating surplus content. Having unnecessary sub-pages for rides increases the amount of maintenance work, especially as there are only about three of us who actively work on the wiki. It's probably better to post photos of the ride to our Flickr group where they can be more easily grouped and tracked. The ones you've posted aren't particularly NSFW, imho! Feel free to continue this discussion off-wiki: mail A T nicksayers D 0 T com --Nsayers 04:05, 4 August 2008 (PDT)

Hopefully I've just made a change that you'll be happy with. I've set up a proper Saint Louis photos page from the 2008 one you created. Let me know if this is alright. --Nsayers 04:18, 4 August 2008 (PDT)

You must work at a different place than 99% of the rest of the workforce. A visible penis is going to be NSFW everywhere I know, and the painted breasts are likely to be NSFW in half of the workplaces. I feel discussions are the true spirit of Wiki, and you did offend me off by not have one. Unilateral changes are within policy, but then again walking up to strangers on the street and saying, "I don't like your hairdo" is within your rights, too. Neither are consider polite.

The Wiki from where I admin, we tend to do things different. We would leave the users' named pages as is, and place a #REDIRECT under the "proper" page. Our policy is to edit as little as possible. The less we are seen, the more it is the user's wiki. --Photo212grapher 05:54, 4 August 2008 (PDT)

Oops, yes, I forgot about that photo with the naked breasts and penis! Luckily I work from home so don't have much of a NSFW problem, but I do take your point. Given your comments, I'll try to consult about changes I make in future but I often don't have the time. I just try and maintain naming conventions, page consistency etc across the wiki, which is why I moved your page. Out of interest, what is the other wiki you admin for? – Nsayers 02:32, 8 August 2008 (PDT)

Spam

Please delete Image:Milanoo Banners.jpg. - Erik Baas 03:26, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

Seems like someone got in there ahead of me! What was the picture of? --Nsayers 11:56, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

It was a banner of some website, including its web address. No big deal, really.. ;-) - Erik Baas 16:42, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

More spam: I blanked User:427 buy clarinex, but maybe it's better to delete it ? - Erik Baas 03:39, 28 June 2009 (PDT)

Idem: User:385 buy naprosyn - Erik Baas 03:44, 28 June 2009 (PDT)

Idem: User:720 buy zyvox - Erik Baas 12:41, 28 June 2009 (PDT)

Thanks for flagging this up, Eric. I've blocked those three users. --Nsayers 14:12, 28 June 2009 (PDT)

Idem: User:560 buy floxin. - Erik Baas 03:19, 6 July 2009 (PDT)

Thanks again. Blocked and deleted. If this happens much more, maybe I should make you an admin, so you can help fight the spam too? --Nsayers 05:14, 6 July 2009 (PDT)

Might be a good idea after all, since the spamming continues: User:912 buy hip joint chews cats and User:370 buy celadrin... - Erik Baas 09:35, 11 July 2009 (PDT)

I cleaned the last few up with my Sysop power! (It sounds like a detergent for mops). How about making Eric Baas an admin or Sysop? Which ever gives him enough power to deal with the spam on his own because I am sure it takes as much effort to delete the contents of pages as deleting the pages. --Marte Kinder 12:52, 11 July 2009 (PDT)

Done! Erik Baas, you are now a sysop! Use your new powers wisely, and may the Force be with you. --Nsayers 14:43, 12 July 2009 (PDT)

Thank you very much ! :-) - Erik Baas 15:07, 12 July 2009 (PDT)

List of rides

Nick, I hope you don't mind my having moved this section's content and the connected section on my talk page to the page's Discussion page, there now integrated, as our discussion is in particular relevant for that single page and may concern its other editors and readers as well.
SomeHuman 2010-01-04 08:12 (GMT)

In case you would have the admin powers to edit modification comments shown for this wiki's History lists, I'm afraid I misspelled your name (with capital S) and it now appears twice in red for my edit of 06:02, 4 January 2010 on the Revision_history of "List_of_rides". Surely you're not gone from this wiki! Sorry about that.
SomeHuman 2010-01-04 09:04 (GMT)

My mistake: I had unthoughtfully continued our discussion here. I moved that under your input on the page's Discussion page with my latest reply.
SomeHuman 2010-01-07 01:24 (GMT)

Albuquerque/Santa Fe

Hi Nick.
Yesterday, User:Gonaked further edited Albuquerque and then apparently wanted to change the title. Instead of a 'move' that would have maintained the edit history, the user simply created a new page Albuquerque/Santa_Fe. Though one might simply delete the old page, perhaps it would be best to copy the current content from the new into the old page and save the latter with edit comment Integrating User:Gonaked's edits of 18 Feb 2010 2:13-2:19 from unduly created page, delete the new one (at which only Gonaked saved his edits within 6 minutes following those on the old page), and move the old page to the new name.
SomeHuman 2010-02-19 07:52-08:01 (GMT)

Done. Nsayers 23:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you did better. The Albuquerque and (especially with Marta's line for Santa Fe now on the List of rides) also Santa_Fe redirects are both needed.
SomeHuman 2010-02-20 04:31 (GMT)

Delete request Brussels obsolete 2009 sub file

Hi Nick,
Please delete Brussels 2009 Planning Art Mobilization. There were and are no links to it. Unlike such page for 2007, it only contains links to an image file and to its twin on another server. I pasted the latter url into the image file, so no information gets lost. Thanks,
SomeHuman 2010-02-28 21:55 (GMT)

Wiki communication

Hi again Nick,

Part of your outburst: "As to why I haven't replied to your lengthy messages, well, to be frank, life is short and you haven't exactly enamoured yourself to me. I don't get paid for doing this and there are only a few really active editors on this wiki [...<some complex matters>...] I've given you my contact details and asked to discuss these complex matters with you via telephone, email, IM etc, but you ignored this attempt to communicate in these other, more productive, ways. In short, be nice and I'll be nice in return."

I do not accept your disrespectful behaviour for not having jumped to your invitation to communicate by external means. I appreciated your suggestion but have my own reasons for not having discussions over the phone or instant messaging. Working at a wiki does not oblige to give up one's privacy. And their disadvantage of not being able to show what one means, can cause as much a waiste of time by misunderstandings or futile lengthy explanations, as discussion pages on a wiki. Without a chance of someone coming to the resque. There are no results to show others at latter occasions, it all has to be repeated. The other means you suggested, e-mail, offers no advantage at all in saving time.
And as replied before: "I prefer keeping a discussion in writing (not enough room in my memory) for later purposes, and entirely open for others"
I prefer to have discussions about a wiki on that wiki, where other editors and readers have access to it, and where it grows a history for later referencing. Readers and especially coeditors can be very susceptible in detecting inner groups, and then tend to distrust their opponent and suspect anyone that might belong to an only partially seen group of conniving. Though there might be pragmatic reasons for occasional phone calls, deontologically it is not the best method for a wiki, in particular with only a few regulars: It keeps that group small. You do not have to agree, but I expect you to respect my views about how I should behave on a wiki. And to cooperate at the WNBR wiki for the best interest to its public. It's getting very late for me, so forgive me for being rather blunt. Kind regards.
SomeHuman 2010-02-28 23:18 (GMT)