Talk:List of rides - Revision history

Johnckirk: Comments on recent rollback

2014-12-31T01:24:51Z

Comments on recent rollback

Erik Baas: Protected "Talk:List of rides": Excessive spamming ([edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite))

2012-04-26T10:05:48Z

Protected "Talk:List of rides": Excessive spamming ([edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite))

Erik Baas: Reverted edits by Yiyuan (talk) to last revision by Troy Mars

2012-04-26T09:48:38Z

Reverted edits by Yiyuan (talk) to last revision by Troy Mars

Yiyuan at 06:31, 26 April 2012

2012-04-26T06:31:07Z

Troy Mars at 16:28, 11 November 2010

2010-11-11T16:28:45Z

SomeHuman: /* Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template */ link update

2010-02-28T22:20:47Z

‎Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template: link update

SomeHuman: /* Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template */ (fix spelling typo)

2010-02-28T04:08:27Z

‎Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template: (fix spelling typo)

SomeHuman: /* Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template */ observations

2010-02-27T18:51:57Z

‎Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template: observations

SomeHuman: /* Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template */ (fix html typo)

2010-02-27T18:41:32Z

‎Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template: (fix html typo)

SomeHuman: /* Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template */ Further consideration: Updatability

2010-02-27T18:39:26Z

‎Placeholders '?', capitalization, and a missing template: Further consideration: Updatability

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		+	==Reverting changes==
		+	I've undone [[User:Michael_Beals\|Michael Beals]]' UK changes from 17-Dec-2014. Someone else may want to do the same thing for his US changes on the same date.
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		+	This also meant that I rolled back [[User:Cybernetent\|Cybernetent]]'s changes from 22-Dec-2014, but they were just reversing a couple of the UK changes that Michael Beals made (to Chelmsford and Clacton), so I've effectively preserved that as part of my change.
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		+	There were various problems with what he did:
		+	*Changed the status of long-standing rides (e.g. Brighton and London) to be "New ride planned" or "Kickstart this ride" rather than "Committed to ride".
		+	*Adding "Previous rides" to some entries, even when they haven't ridden before. This then meant that some future dates were listed in the past (e.g. for Chelmsford).
		+	*Changed the dates of some rides from 2014 to 2015 (e.g. Hastings and Oxford) without checking the corresponding page. This meant that it was an inaccurate prediction and this list didn't include the history of the 2014 ride.
		+	*Mangled some of the formatting, e.g. putting <nowiki>{{</nowiki> without the corresponding <nowiki>}}</nowiki> so it didn't get displayed correctly.
		+	--[[User:Johnckirk\|Johnckirk]] 17:24, 30 December 2014 (PST)
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	=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==		=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==
	I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.		I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.

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	=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==		=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==
	I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.		I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.

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		+	[http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany e co] gradually establish branches in cities around the world. [http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany e co italia] has developed its own set of precious stones, [http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany e co outlet] platinum standard by the U.S. government adopted as the official standard. [http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany milano] Today, [http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany gioielli] is one of the global well-known luxury goods company [http://www.tiffanyecogioielli.com/ tiffany outlet].
	=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==		=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==
	I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.		I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.

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		+	=='List of rides' USA needs better sorting==
		+	I think it might be better if we sort the rides in the US based on the state rather then city. For instance all the Florida rides would now be grouped together rather then a separate page grouping them.
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	==Removed suggested future ride dates==		==Removed suggested future ride dates==
	*[[Image:stat4-kick.gif\|Kickstart this ride]] [[Olympia]], WA 10 Jun 2006 (no evidence that ride took place)		*[[Image:stat4-kick.gif\|Kickstart this ride]] [[Olympia]], WA 10 Jun 2006 (no evidence that ride took place)

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 ::[[User:SomeHuman|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 06:50-07:43 (GMT)</span>
-::This concludes my counter argumentation for the List of rides. See also the subsections hereunder. Please, see my suggestions as ''a whole'' while looking ''ahead''. A road is easiest and best renewed after the sewers, water, gas, electricity, fibre-optics, sidewalks, drainage and asphalt had formed a concept, not necessarily desparately trying to salvage as much as theoretically imaginable. But our job at hand is ''very'' easy and does not inconvenience anyone. I will elaborate on the last remaining topic, means of communication and wiki attitudes, on [[User:Nsayers|''your'' talk page]] within the next 48 hours. – [[User:SomeHuman|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 06:50-12:42 (GMT)</span>
+::This concludes my counter argumentation for the List of rides. See also the subsections hereunder. Please, see my suggestions as ''a whole'' while looking ''ahead''. A road is easiest and best renewed after the sewers, water, gas, electricity, fibre-optics, sidewalks, drainage and asphalt had formed a concept, not necessarily desparately trying to salvage as much as theoretically imaginable. But our job at hand is ''very'' easy and does not inconvenience anyone. I will elaborate on the last remaining topic, means of communication and wiki attitudes, on [[User_talk:Nsayers#Wiki communication|''your'' talk page]] within the next 48 hours. – [[User:SomeHuman|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 06:50-12:42 (GMT)</span>
 ::<p style="color:#936;font-size:120%;letter-spacing:.05ex;font-weight:700;">Related extra suggestion (1)</p>

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 ::<p style="color:#936;font-size:120%;letter-spacing:.05ex;font-weight:700;">Further consideration</p>
-::A few months ago, I found a List of rides with a huge amount of unclear and uncertain data, with many inconsistencies. I updated and improved what I could, but still many aspects remained rather unintelligable. Meanwhile, and only after my (red coloured) pushing for clarifications, lengthy discussions, and partially reverting one another's work, perhaps it starts to become clear where things might go.<br/>
+::A few months ago, I found a List of rides with a huge amount of unclear and uncertain data, with many inconsistencies. I updated and improved what I could, but still many aspects remained rather unintelligible. Meanwhile, and only after my (red coloured) pushing for clarifications, lengthy discussions, and partially reverting one another's work, perhaps it starts to become clear where things might go.<br/>
 ::I happen to have a good knowledge of English. For so many ride locations, the potential editors do not have that advantage. In fact, I do not think a series of pages explaining who sets under which circumstances 'Committed to ride' or 'Assumed to repeat' and 'How to' instructions would do a lot of good. Though there should be a short explanation for whom seeks it. While analyzing and redesigning, I attempt to obtain a List of rides that appears nearly intuitive, including the actual location list's html source with its templates. That requires a high degree of consistency. Only then, local readers might dare to assume they understand enough to actually try and update their data. This basic work had clearly been lacking, and it still is. Too many rides are being organized by discussion groups without much attention for this wiki - it appears unimportant to them, as a source of information and as a means of rallying. Without many local editors doing their job, ours is huge and still near futile. I think that my above argumented changes and suggestions allow a bit of optimism.<br/>
 ::[[User:SomeHuman|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 18:39-18:51 (GMT)</span>

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	::It is the most ''easy'' and ''safe'' to use solution for newbies, and brings the most important item, the next ride date, really to the attention it deserves. And then allows a ''more readable lapsed date'' (with 3 teints that now can match Previous rides). It makes the List of rides ''easy to maintain'' without having to eliminate or copy/paste a template at many occasions. Only twice a year (southern and northern hemisphere), one overhauls the page by pasting an empty Lapsed template where it is needed, then again from top to bottom at every Lapsed one types the three dots where one just copied the date and pastes that date into Lapsed (empty or across obsoleted date, as there can only be the most recent).<br/>		::It is the most ''easy'' and ''safe'' to use solution for newbies, and brings the most important item, the next ride date, really to the attention it deserves. And then allows a ''more readable lapsed date'' (with 3 teints that now can match Previous rides). It makes the List of rides ''easy to maintain'' without having to eliminate or copy/paste a template at many occasions. Only twice a year (southern and northern hemisphere), one overhauls the page by pasting an empty Lapsed template where it is needed, then again from top to bottom at every Lapsed one types the three dots where one just copied the date and pastes that date into Lapsed (empty or across obsoleted date, as there can only be the most recent).<br/>
	::[[User:SomeHuman\|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 10:53-17:30 (GMT)</span>		::[[User:SomeHuman\|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 10:53-17:30 (GMT)</span>
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		+	::<p style="color:#936;font-size:120%;letter-spacing:.05ex;font-weight:700;">Further consideration</p>
		+	::A few months ago, I found a List of rides with a huge amount of unclear and uncertain data, with many inconsistencies. I updated and improved what I could, but still many aspects remained rather unintelligable. Meanwhile, and only after my (red coloured) pushing for clarifications, lengthy discussions, and partially reverting one another's work, perhaps it starts to become clear where things might go.</br>
		+	::I happen to have a good knowledge of English. For so many ride locations, the potential editors do not have that advantage. In fact, I do not think a series of pages explaining who sets under which circumstances 'Committed to ride' or 'Assumed to repeat' and 'How to' instructions would do a lot of good. Though there should be a short explanation for whom seeks it. While analyzing and redesigning, I attempt to obtain a List of rides that appears nearly intuitive, including the actual location list's html source with its templates. That requires a high degree of consistency. Only then, local readers might dare to assume they understand enough to actually try and update their data. This basic work had clearly been lacking, and it still is. Without many local editors doing their job, ours is huge and still near futile. I think that my above argumented changes and suggestions allow a bit of optimism.<br/>
		+	::[[User:SomeHuman\|SomeHuman]] <span style="font-size:85%;color:#666;">2010-02-27 18:39 (GMT)</span>